One of the most abundant fruiting plants in my yard are Plinia, genus Myrciaria then variety e.g. Sabara. They come under the Myrtacaea family as does Eugenia and Psidium. The jaboticaba are the plants you should have planted 10 years ago. Do it now!!!
They don’t necessarily have to grow in the ground, they can stay in pots for years, just keep graduating the pots in size. The most popular and most available of this type is available at nurseries in S.E.Queensland are Myrciaria jaboticaba “Sabara”. They grow well in dappled shade and need humidity and well draining soil, at my place they like soil on the acid side.
If you maybe like to collect these plants, then check out the following names and descriptions:-
Plinia edulis (Cambuca)
Plinia shawi (dwarf Mulichi)
This is a list of the plants that Adam Shafran shared and shows on youtube from Fying Fox Fruits, has in his inventory in the U.S. You can see them on "Plethora of Plinia"
He keeps many of the larger plants in his plastic covered fernhouse. His, is a money making place as he started off most of the varieties that are considered quite rare. His seeds often sell for $3-$5 each and his rarer plants at $300 - $600 and more. He is known as the Prince of Plinia, he is very knowledgeable in this field.
To see some of these plants, you can view on Doug’s virtual garden visit on video. It is a specialised field but you need to start now. There are some types as the Giant fruit called “Coronata” which is sometimes available at Kyogle nursery for about $35 and this fruits in 3 to 5 years. Some of the other types fruit in about 5 years, but larger “Sabara” fruit may take up to 10 years.
My two M. jaboticaba Sabara trees are about 20 years old and each time it looks like rain coming, I throw some chicken fertilizer under the dripline and this stimulates flowering which happens 3 times a year, sometimes 4 times with heaps of fruit on the trunks. These flowers turn into dark grapelike fruit, a process which is called cauliflory or cauliflorus flowering.
The fruit comes in different colours such as red, white, purple. You can make jam, wine, cordial etc.
Don’t forget the Eugenia plants that grow in our region as well. Many of us already grow Psidium – Guava plants.
Doug Hanning knows much more than I do about these fruit trees, I hope he doesn’t mind me giving his name, but I just wanted to spark interest and encourage gardeners to try these fruits.
I like to purchase my seedling plants from a grower in Nth. Queensland, Cairns.
One hint, if you are impatient, buy the largest plant you can afford to start with. Size or age makes a difference in waiting time.
AwwwChrista. Now you got me thinking about one.
Lol Christa I am by no means an expert on plinias but they do fascinate me and I love to eat them. Nice list by the way. I have to stop myself from getting tunnel vision as my dream is to have as many different fruits as possible not just plinias.
As of now I have 6 sabaras and 5 grimals in the ground(only grimals fruiting, sabaras maybe 2-3 years off). I have three yellow jaboticabas that fruit well( glazioviana that taste apricoty) also have 2 red hybrids, one escalante, an acu paulista,aureana x phitrantha, phitrantha costada, plinia coronata and a plinia salticola.
I do like eugenias and have a couple of cherry of the rio grande, a few grumichama(black and orange), pitomba,pitangatuba, araza boi, pitanguihna, braz cherry, and black braz cherry . Adam Safran is a bit of a loose cannon on youtube! I agree that there is no time to waste when it comes to plinias. I love watching peoples faces when they try them for the first time. I would like to put 30 red hybrids into a lttle grove for future fruit selling and these fruit within 4 years and are the best bet for the impatient.
I just looked at my Coronata and realised I missed a fruiting and there are little seedlings close to the base of the big plant. I will have to prise them out with chopsticks. The coronata fruit tastes good. They are not huge yet but fruited a couple of years now. A dozen of them wouldn't go astray.
We do have some eugenia - cherry of the rio grande, 2 grumichama a black and an orange), pitomba, pitanguihna, an old brazilian cherry red and new orange, an old black brazilian cherry and a young pitanga. Did you get the pitangatuba from steve?
Is is growing well and fruiting yet? You have more Plinia than we have. I am a bit older than you and would like to buy bigger trees to give fruit earlier. You never know we may head north and buy some.
The plinia seedlings are tough as, I just rip them out and throw them in a pot and 90% of them grow fine.
My pitangatuba is only 1/2m high but it had a couple of flowers this year, maybe get fruit in the next couple of years. And yes this was from Steve about a year ago.
When you talk about coronata, you are not talking about what Daleys call large leaf? Steve told me these are Grimals or something very close to Grimal. The coronata I just got has a completely different growth and leaf to the Grimals. Daleys has done a bit of a stuff up by not calling these Jaboticabas the proper names. Although they just gave me a $50 voucher for sending me two male dwarf torpedo papayas that were meant to be bisexual, have found them to be very quick to fix any issues. Just noticed this arvo that my 3 yellow jabos are completely covered with flowers, they are tiny but tasty.
Doug are you saying we have been sold a dud.
Are the latest ones we have bought- Grimal? (the giant fruit). I know the first one I purchased in 2015 was a coronata according to this description on Daleys site ( Botanical Name: Plinia coronata The largest fruits of all our jaboticaba's, this variety can produce golf ball sized fruits and is aptly named the Giant Jaboticaba. Looking at the picture you can see the normal sized Jaboticaba fruit on the left vs The Giant Jaboticaba fruit on the right. It is an Ornamental evergreen tree from Brazil grown for unusual sweet black fruit which cover the inside trunks. *Note this is the very first release and only 25 will be available for sale in 2015 hence why it is in our rare and collectable category. We are hoping to produce more at a later date unknown.)
That is like false advertising. I have an old Grimal that I bought about the same time as the Sabara about 18 years ago. It has the larger leaf, slimmer trunk and bigger fruit and thicker skin.
I am confused now.
No you are right the coronata are different. I have recently talked to a few people that thought the grimal and coronata were the same. Now that I have one, I can see the difference. Was just checking as I wasnt sure that you had grimals as well.
I just dont understand why daleys dont sell them as sabara and grimal , they persist with small and large leaf and no where else in the world are they called that.
I find the foliage on the coronata mesmerising!
Yes you are right about their naming practice when it come to Sabara ad Grimal, I thought I had a larger leaf Sabara for all those years (abt 18yrs). It did take some time to flower.
I have since purchased a couple of Grimal from Steve. I did not know it was called Grimal Jaboticaba Plinia sp. Peluda de Alagoas. So many of the names have been changed over time. You notice it more when you have a collection of old tropical fruit tree books. Some years ago I had a Cedar Bay Cherry that had a reasonably small seed with good pulp and also a Pitomba with sweet fruit. The Bay cherry was pulled out due to disease. The pitomba was in the wrong place along with a grumichama, that was about 15 yrs ago.
I have some that I don't know the names of. Labels go missing and grafts fail. My practice now is hanging aluminiun labels. As soon as I manage to get hold of a good grafting knife, I will venture into that field. My lessons are out of a good book at this stage.
For those of us who know Lissa, this is her blog post on Jaboticaba. Just to prove this is a plant worth growing in our climate especially. To those who decided to buy one then, are they flowering yet. You can graft an earlier flowering scion onto your basic "Sabara" to get earlier fruit. To view Lissa's blog - http://brisbanelocalfood.ning.com/profiles/blogs/jaboticaba-myrciar... Have I convinced you yet?
What an excellent summary. I’m interested in the dwarf variety (and am on the wait list for it from Kyogle) as I think it would our yard as it could be grown in a pot. There’s a lot more that I need to go back and reread in your blog. Thanks for being so generous with your knowledge. (And in answer to your question - I think my maximum wait time is probably 3 years!)
Fiona you can get the red hybrids that fruit in 3 or so years from the guy that Christa and I have bought stuff from in Cairns and he sends them down. Reasonably priced as well. His name is Steve Trenerry and he is one of the moderaters on oz rare fruit facebook group. You can just message him for an up to date pricelist
Fantastic tip Doug. I’ll take a look now.