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Just secured a Moringa tree today. Very excited about it. I did go to the nursery to buy a Midyim Berry or three. Maybe next time

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Comment by Travis Franklin on September 22, 2019 at 18:15

UPDATE

I hope that Moringa isn't poisonous to dogs! Let's see if Moringa's legendary resilience holds true.

Thank you for the heads up about Kumbartcho. What an awesome place! My wife and I walked away with 6 Midyim Berries. What was most awesome was seeing mature Midyam in their Bush Tucker area. I planted them around my Moringa when my dog decided to bite it in half. Num Num Num. I *may* be lucky and walk away with two Morniga if the planted tree recovers (it's been in for less than a day) and if the top part takes in the pot.

Comment by Dave Riley on September 22, 2019 at 12:25

Having said that about Moringa stems  I need to point out that the most neglected kitchen tool is a one essential Korean implement: a pair of scissors.

They even use them for BBQ meats.

All Korean grocers stock awesome pairs of these really cheap.

Nonethel;ess I can't find any associated reference to Moringa and 'scissors', but , in passing, this resource is useful:Growing and processing moringa leaves

Comment by Dave Riley on September 22, 2019 at 11:19

Further on Moringa...

It annoys me that the leaves are so hard to strip off when the stems are fresh.

A Katuk stem, in comparison, is pot supplying in no time. Great flavour too.

I found that if you leave a Moringa stem for a day after harvesting it, the leaves are easier to strip off.

Even if you cook the stem whole the leaves  mostly hang on.

I am, as you see, an impatient man without dexterous fingers.

Nonetheless, Moringa is revered in the Philippines (where it is called Malunggay) so I'm still engaged with the plant enough to look forward to making further cuttings and being more considerate with the plant out.

You can often buy the fresh drumsticks (pictured) in season at Indian grocers.

We're talking M-curry.

Comment by Travis Franklin on September 22, 2019 at 8:15

Thank you Gayle for providing the correct name. I had checked their catalogue but of course I was looking for Midgen.

Thanks Dave. I didn't know they were native to the Moreton Bay Region. Hopefully it takes off in Lawnton! My fingers are crossed that I will have better luck with my Moringa than you have. I spent last night watching every Moringa video on YouTube. I guess that the people that don't have success growing Moringa don't create videos or blog posts about it. So I'm thinking it's a bit of survivor bias I'm reading / watching.

The book on Kumbartcho main page Mangroves to Mountains looks like it's a must have. Dear Santa

Comment by Dave Riley on September 21, 2019 at 23:56

Me and trees! What can I say? Sandy soil and the aquifers 5 metres down.

But I do have a couple of Moringas which refuse to thrive. Took any number of cuttings that took off but few sustained themselves in the dirt.

One of the conundrums.

Don't like the taste but it can be disguised well enough.

I don't have midyim berry at the moment --not yet -- but it is a Moreton Bay region bushtucker standard -- that and the Bungwall Fern (roots ground into flour)

I've not found many edible plants on the coastal menu. Starchy ones especially. Pandanus an exception. Would have been primarily a meat, fish and shellfish diet for  Gubbi Gubbi folk here.

Low carb.

Comment by GayleD on September 21, 2019 at 21:11
I got my midgems from Kumbartcho. They put a new stocklist up every month https://www.kumbartcho.org.au/nursery
Mind you, one of the volunteers told me once that they aren't allowed to use common names and all have to learn the proper ones so ask for a Austromyrtus dulcis
Comment by Andrew Cumberland on September 21, 2019 at 20:10

Hit one of the native nurseries like Komartcho.  You can get them for less than $2 per plant. 

Comment by Travis Franklin on September 21, 2019 at 19:57
I didn't get the Midyim this time around. I walked out with the Moringa instead of what I'd gone there for. The highlight for me though was the nursery had a mature Black Sapote tree for me to see what mine hopefully will look like. Also had a mature mulberry which is on my wish list as well.
Comment by Andrew Cumberland on September 21, 2019 at 19:18

Don't feel bad about getting Midyim from the nursery.  They don't just drop out the sky mate.  LOL.  Now you have three, you might well be able to get seed and help spread the love.  Firstly, around your own yard and then maybe to other like-minded folks.  How good is that?  And congrats on the Moringa.  Great plant which is much under-valued. 

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