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I don't usually wallow in individual plants but outback the peppers are friendly.
These 'perennials' may not be the tastiest morsel in the Capsicum fam but they are reliable croppers offering fruits that are great to cook with.
And the plant lasts a few years...reputably 3-5.
In my patch pepper plants tend to fall over as the fruits form ( & weigh the plant down ) because they don't root securely. But these darlings have held up their end.
I gotta have my peppers all year as they are an essential ingredient in my preferred Mirepoix/Holy Trinity/soffritto.
An essential seed saver.
The best peppers are definitely the cubanelle ( or Italian 'fryers') and these are my work around. They do fry up in olive oil delish.
I also grow the wee mini sweet peppers which are very tasty in the same menu capacity.

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Comment by Dave Riley on May 27, 2017 at 9:06

What we add to our gardens is up to us, I guess, as we get to play god.

Urine ticks a lot of boxes -- one being that it is almost sterile when freshly made. Is almost odorless-- when freshly made. Disperses quickly. Mixes with water. And it's free!

I've just come back to the a wee focus after being disappointed in aloe vera fertilizer for my seed to seedlings. I'm now watering  them 1:15 with urine with a littel bit of aloe..

As for topping up the rest of the garden, it can be hard work -- but the criteria I use is not only convenience but seeming need. With heavy mulch I find plant burning is not an issue as the ground cover blankets  the shock.

While there may be nothing dainty about the activity i do collect my urine first in a portable urinal (LINK)

-- which makes for a handy en suite. It's not that I'm obsessive about it -- it's just routine.

I grew up among aunts who always kept a potty under the bed and nightdresses meant design utility. Rather than walk outback to the outhouse stepping over cane toads or snakes, these vessels were preferred activity.

As for drugs -- I don't really care. I'm no purist. The quotient is so low. As far as I know the only problematical run off of human pharmacology is estrogen -- as reported in British waterways -- effecting fish. So if you are on oral contraceptives, that's an issue.

Comment by Mary-Ann Baker on May 27, 2017 at 8:31

yes Christa the Chinese gardeners and many others always used night soil as they called their excretions on their gardens and as we were always told it is great as long as they are fruit and veggies that are produced above ground - eg carrots etc were never fertilized this way - to stop disease spread....when we had cats we always used clay for their litter trays and added it to the sandy ( Perth) soil around fruit trees etc both the clay and the cat excretions were good for the soil ! 

Comment by Christa on May 27, 2017 at 8:17

It seems some of us are looking for a good strain of capsicums, I have some old seeds of Jimmy Nardello and will toss them into the garden and cross my fingers. They are a good capsicum according to others. My plan is to find one good type of veggie suitable for my garden and my soil conditions etc. and stick to it.  

Dave your wee efforts, come under the natural fertilizer category but I feel with all the medication we are on, it would be like adding chemicals to my yard.   I often wonder if the old chinese gardeners that used to grow all their vegetables in the gold rush times in north Queensland, used that wee practice. 

Comment by Cathie MacLean on May 27, 2017 at 7:18
I have no problem with '24 hour urea' as a friend calls it. It would be interesting to have the ferments analysed sometime. Clearly the peppers are happy!
Comment by Dave Riley on May 27, 2017 at 0:44


Well I brew up the fluid from my kitchen slops (the solids go to the chooks) and pour it on my garden beds. Occasionally I pour some freshly made DIY urine around the base of my plants...all of my plants in fact as I have a seemingly unlimited supply of the stuff.

That's it. (Info LINK)

But not all beds/mounds are the same as some have progressed their fertility better than others.

I have been using aloe vera fertilizer which I add to my ferments as an inoculant.

As for my wee's routine. I haven't killed off any plants nor soured the neighbors. I do mulch heavily and my soil is très sandy and I always (always!) spread fresh  in the first 24 hours of production in order to avoid the rise in the ammonia and stink quotient.

In one Finnish study yields for plants fertilised with urine quadrupled and matched those of mineral-fertilised plants.

[I may be eccentric but I'm not mad.The research is there.]

Comment by Cathie MacLean on May 26, 2017 at 22:50
Well, I have pepper envy. There's just no other way to say it. Re the issue of gross feeders - I've always been timid with nitrogen because it seemed like when I fertilised the leaves would distort and darken and shrivel. I do give them sulphate of potash when they flower and fruit. Do you guys add Epsom salts for magnesium, calcium etc? I've read that it is good for peppers and I was thinking of applying that - to my eggplants too. I have a few white ones on at the moment but it's a shady spot so they might shut up shop since it's getting cooler.
Comment by Dave Riley on May 26, 2017 at 18:20

This is second season fruiting on these bushes. Can't believe it!

Part shade too -- maybe that helped with Summer survival?

The near bye bell peppers are desultory.

Tonight, to celebrate, I made up a pragmatic  Turkish red pepper paste -- lacto fermented.Not from my peppers but ones I bought el cheapo locally.

In a week or two I'll be drowning in tomatoes....and still have more seedlings to plant out. Same in the school garden. Same with my tomatilloes ('husk' tomatoes): take off!

Since I am keenly moving into seed saving mode I'll have some Perennial Cap seeds to share.Those currently fruiting are seed saved anyway. Usually these plants  are twice a year croppers.

I grow 'em on mounds by the way and feed em with my fermented habits.On the same mound I've not been able to grow anything else.

Comment by Christa on May 26, 2017 at 11:14

Your perennial capsicum is growing much better than mine, Dave.  No fruit on it yet but live in hope. Never had good success with caps.  They can get quiet pricey at the stores. 

Comment by Elaine de Saxe on May 26, 2017 at 10:00

Capsicums even more than Eggplant and Tomatoes, are very sensitive to nutrients and water. What the old-fashioned nursery people call 'gross feeders'. Horrid term but it explains why you need to keep up the nutrients and water and they can run out of both quite easily. When the leaves start to look wonky and scrunched in - they reduce in breadth somehow - then the plants are struggling. My many tries at growing Capsicums have foundered on that need of theirs to be constantly checked and fed.

Currently I am chuffed with a volunteer thick-walled commercial-style Capsicum plant which over summer had 100 percent of its fruit stung but now has produced dozens of thick sweet crisp fruit. Yet even now is looking stressed and is ready for a refurb to go on making great fruit.

Capsies are such hot-weather plants, you need a warm spot for them to fruit over winter.

Comment by Dave Riley on May 26, 2017 at 8:00

The variety is sold online --such as from Green Harvest -- as seed and plants labeled 'perennial capsicum'. My seedling supplier at the Caboolture Mkts has them sometimes. All my other experiments have been as you say.

No netting. Best year yet for these plants so far. I have four  growing.

These fruits are much smaller than the Italians and Cubans. Indeed they can be mistaken for very large chilis because of their size -- although they are larger than your average heater: 5-6cm,  long & meaty.

They also eat well when still green.

I think that because they are close to chilis -- just a wee bite like the Cubanelle -- they perform like them, whereas the keenly sweet ones are vulnerable.

They can be difficult to sprout from seed. But then, in my limited experience of growing peppers they fruit profusely compared to other varieties and thus far, touch wood, are not prone to da flies.

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