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Hello Growers,

Smee again here to fling some petrol on the fire.

I have a garlic experiment going, 8 weeks old now.

I am not a typist ( or speller) so I will lets the photos tell the story.

1 garlic bulb from China, 2 from SE Qld purchased the same day.

Aged the same in the same spot same conditions for 8 weeks.

You pick the China import ??? 

I know which I am planting.

It is not just the bad bugs that come with the imports think Genetics, do we want theirs????

I DO NOT, chuck it in the fire.

If you can buy it here the problem is here, if you grow it, where do we go, and what happens to the prove good stuff, will we have any good stuff to plant next year???

Genetics and Ethics simple

Best Regards Mark 

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Not exactly a fair experiment Mark.  The Chinese stuff is only around 9 months older (yes, I know you bought it on the same day).  

I think your point is better made by saying, "Plant a local variety because it is much more suited to your climate and much fresher so it will grow heaps better."  And that mate, is why I planted Glen Large and Elephant from a local supplier.  Yep, the genetics of sub-tropical garlic suits our climate. 

Nobody is trying to argue that we should plant Chinese garlic - however, it's not simply because it is Chinese. It's because it isn't suited to our environment.  Being Chinese doesn't make it evil - it means that their garlic grows real good where winter is freezing.   

Now stop trying to stir me up, or I will come around and hold you down until those damn lambs lick your eyelids off.  LOL.  Cheeky bugga!

The Aussie garlic used in this test has been out of the ground for 9+ months, in storage.

All it wants to do is go go go and grow.

The other just wants to decompose. When did it last taste soil?? Was it soil??

 The poor Chinese growers are in the same boat as our farmers, to make money they have to grow the biggest crop = bigger $ that is basic economics and that allows them to eat (etc etc) and carry on doing business to survive. In the economics of it all we have lost our way , both with ethics and quality ( goodness) they keep playing one off against the other to build in a huge ,  always convenient, profit margin. The end result is unless you grow it is it full of life or just look the part.

I hear ya brother. That was my comment about "get a variety suited to your local climate."  The Glen Large have actually come up for me.  

What Aussie strain did you use?  Glen Large or something else?  

Oh, and final point about this craziness, and it's not just garlic.  How the heck can you grow a crop overseas, ship it all the way to Oz and then have it still be cheaper than what our local farmers can produce it for?!  Tell me there ain't something rotten in Denmark. 

Hi MARK  good pics mate ,are them local ones you grew known as the glen large wich I believe were bred , developed at Gattons horticulture university.I would love to buy or swap with anyone that has any as Ive only been able to get Aussie organic woolies stuff   wich Im not complaining about either.Being the great white edible plant hunter that I am it would be great to grow some glen large.How does everyone feel about sending in pics of different stages   of their garlic  growth throughout the growing season to harvested bulbs ,only an idea.

I planted Glen Large this season Darren.  If it comes to fruition, I'm happy to give you some cloves mate. I also planted Elephant Garlic - which I have to say isn't doing as well the the Glen. 

I actually think your photo idea is a good one.  We could even use this thread!

Be patient with Elephant Garlic, Andy. It's a bigger plant with bigger cloves. Remember it's a 3-step life-cycle so only a part of the crop will be edible now.

I was tempted to go traditional Elaine - and not harvest any of the greens. 

I'll do my best to remember that Darren. Just planted my 'Morayfield Specials' since they are an un-named variety from Malta originally.

The first photo of my new Aussie garlic titled "here I come"

Glen Large and Elephant:

They are actually growing!!!

Hey Andrew lookin good mate my organic ones have just poked their heads through .I did plant some elephant out my front yard but no sign yet ,oh well!at least I may get a little.What did you put in your soil before planting?

It's a new bed Darren.  So, it is a mix of compost, potting mix, horse poo and garden soil. 

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